Comments on: Booth Rent Vs. Commission Based Salons http://blackfolkshair.com/blogs/booth-rent-vs-commission-based-salons.html Find black salons, black stylist, black hair care, african american hair products, hairstyles Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:04:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Sandra http://blackfolkshair.com/blogs/booth-rent-vs-commission-based-salons.html/comment-page-1#comment-467 Sandra Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:36:23 +0000 http://blackfolkshair.com/?p=13#comment-467 I am 4 months out of school. The salon I work at is commission or booth rental (optional) Commission is 50/50. When I came to work at the salon, I figured it was a nice clean work environment unlike some of the surrounding salons. I am supposed to only work on commission until I build my clientele; this was understood from day one. While on commission you are allowed to take walk-in. There is no register. All the money goes into her pocket and divided at the end of the night. Still no problem here, cleaning no problem. My issue is I am not the type to sit around if there is no business. She has specials when she feels like she needs them. True she’s in charge of all the marketing, so why am I passing out flyers? She doesn’t want me to get business cards made with my cell number on them. ??????????? It seems to me as if she wants to keep me on commission. My question is why you would want to keep someone beneath you? This is my fault because as intelligent as I maybe. I’m not that good at judging character. An alarm should have gone off when, I found out how many workers she has had in the last year and no one is there now. That shows that the problem my not have been the workers but maybe the management. Agitated and so over being stressed. I am 4 months out of school. The salon I work at is commission or booth rental (optional) Commission is 50/50. When I came to work at the salon, I figured it was a nice clean work environment unlike some of the surrounding salons. I am supposed to only work on commission until I build my clientele; this was understood from day one. While on commission you are allowed to take walk-in. There is no register. All the money goes into her pocket and divided at the end of the night. Still no problem here, cleaning no problem. My issue is I am not the type to sit around if there is no business. She has specials when she feels like she needs them. True she’s in charge of all the marketing, so why am I passing out flyers? She doesn’t want me to get business cards made with my cell number on them. ??????????? It seems to me as if she wants to keep me on commission. My question is why you would want to keep someone beneath you? This is my fault because as intelligent as I maybe. I’m not that good at judging character. An alarm should have gone off when, I found out how many workers she has had in the last year and no one is there now. That shows that the problem my not have been the workers but maybe the management. Agitated and so over being stressed.

]]> By: N B http://blackfolkshair.com/blogs/booth-rent-vs-commission-based-salons.html/comment-page-1#comment-412 N B Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:53:21 +0000 http://blackfolkshair.com/?p=13#comment-412 I have been a salon owner for 9 years, I do not feel booth rent or commisson is a good way to run a salon business. I run a team based business and my sylist are paid hourly pay. Pay rates range from 10- 23.00hourly. I provide major medical and dental and 401k retirement plan. I started my business with the intentions of leaving my children a legacy I decided to work hard so they won't have too. In the salon industy we allow stylists to take to much control away from our businesses. Auto mechanics do not go to the dealerships and rent their cranes or space. You go to school to learn skills to be competitive so that you will be an asesst to a company. The more knowledge and skill one has the more money you make. If I were forced to choose I would choose commission with a hourly rate of minimum wage that way your commission levels can remain around 15-30 percent. More salon owners need to stop partnering with sylists. Start a business not a partnership. You should be able to leave your business at any time and you should be able to return like nothing ever happened. If you can't do that then you don't have a business, you just rent a space for all of your friends to do hair in and you all are splitting the bills and the so called salon owner has all the liability. I have been a salon owner for 9 years, I do not feel booth rent or commisson is a good way to run a salon business. I run a team based business and my sylist are paid hourly pay. Pay rates range from 10- 23.00hourly. I provide major medical and dental and 401k retirement plan. I started my business with the intentions of leaving my children a legacy I decided to work hard so they won’t have too. In the salon industy we allow stylists to take to much control away from our businesses. Auto mechanics do not go to the dealerships and rent their cranes or space. You go to school to learn skills to be competitive so that you will be an asesst to a company. The more knowledge and skill one has the more money you make. If I were forced to choose I would choose commission with a hourly rate of minimum wage that way your commission levels can remain around 15-30 percent. More salon owners need to stop partnering with sylists. Start a business not a partnership. You should be able to leave your business at any time and you should be able to return like nothing ever happened. If you can’t do that then you don’t have a business, you just rent a space for all of your friends to do hair in and you all are splitting the bills and the so called salon owner has all the liability.

]]> By: Jen http://blackfolkshair.com/blogs/booth-rent-vs-commission-based-salons.html/comment-page-1#comment-191 Jen Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:31:34 +0000 http://blackfolkshair.com/?p=13#comment-191 I just started work at a commission based salon. I am not pleased after getting in there to find out that if the client pays with a credit card the owner takes an extra 3% of the already 50/50 split we are doing. And we are responsible for our own advertising and no taxes are being taken out of my checks. She said she will give a 1099 at the end of the year. after reading all of the other responses I think I am getting screwed?? Opinions? Please email me JenMom2dd@gmail.com I just started work at a commission based salon. I am not pleased after getting in there to find out that if the client pays with a credit card the owner takes an extra 3% of the already 50/50 split we are doing.

And we are responsible for our own advertising and no taxes are being taken out of my checks. She said she will give a 1099 at the end of the year.

after reading all of the other responses I think I am getting screwed??

Opinions? Please email me JenMom2dd@gmail.com

]]> By: Dk http://blackfolkshair.com/blogs/booth-rent-vs-commission-based-salons.html/comment-page-1#comment-190 Dk Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:06:19 +0000 http://blackfolkshair.com/?p=13#comment-190 I have work for a small salon as commission stylist, I opened the doors with the owners and built this buisness from the ground. Anyway after a year Im just a busy as my boss but im getting the shaft. About a month ago they stopped paying me for the product that I sell because they are paying intrest on the credit card that they put the product on over a year ago. I just dont know if that is right and i dont know how to approch them. Also they told me that if i want to go to booth rent i would have to pay$400 a month plus utilitys. I was just wondering if thats is right for them to do or should I say something. Please email me back Dklingele21@yahoo.com I have work for a small salon as commission stylist, I opened the doors with the owners and built this buisness from the ground. Anyway after a year Im just a busy as my boss but im getting the shaft. About a month ago they stopped paying me for the product that I sell because they are paying intrest on the credit card that they put the product on over a year ago. I just dont know if that is right and i dont know how to approch them. Also they told me that if i want to go to booth rent i would have to pay$400 a month plus utilitys. I was just wondering if thats is right for them to do or should I say something. Please email me back Dklingele21@yahoo.com

]]> By: Katie Langley http://blackfolkshair.com/blogs/booth-rent-vs-commission-based-salons.html/comment-page-1#comment-188 Katie Langley Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:31:02 +0000 http://blackfolkshair.com/?p=13#comment-188 Need some advise from long term career folks please! I am a makeup artist who was not working in the field for awhile and recently took a part-time receptionist job in a salon. After the owner saw how well I do makeup he has asked me to do several applications for clients. The clients and owner were thrilled with the results. It is a commission salon so I will be getting commission, but the owner has not discussed the split. I'm only 19 and have not negotiated anything like this before and am concerned the owner will try to take advantage of me. Can you lovely ladies and gentlemen tell me what a "normal" commission would be and how to handled being low-balled? All advice will be greatly appreciated! Thank you so much! Katie Need some advise from long term career folks please! I am a makeup artist who was not working in the field for awhile and recently took a part-time receptionist job in a salon. After the owner saw how well I do makeup he has asked me to do several applications for clients. The clients and owner were thrilled with the results. It is a commission salon so I will be getting commission, but the owner has not discussed the split. I’m only 19 and have not negotiated anything like this before and am concerned the owner will try to take advantage of me. Can you lovely ladies and gentlemen tell me what a “normal” commission would be and how to handled being low-balled? All advice will be greatly appreciated! Thank you so much!

Katie

]]> By: david kent http://blackfolkshair.com/blogs/booth-rent-vs-commission-based-salons.html/comment-page-1#comment-186 david kent Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:49:04 +0000 http://blackfolkshair.com/?p=13#comment-186 Just wondering whether or not a salon that traditional has always been a strictly commission and/or salary salon can successfully mix the booth rental concept with it's existing business model? Just wondering whether or not a salon that traditional has always been a strictly commission and/or salary salon can successfully mix the booth rental concept with it’s existing business model?

]]> By: peaches http://blackfolkshair.com/blogs/booth-rent-vs-commission-based-salons.html/comment-page-1#comment-183 peaches Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:43:31 +0000 http://blackfolkshair.com/?p=13#comment-183 salon owners who are booth renting there is certain requirement that we need to implement in our business what ever it is that you are paying for the space that you lease plus light water etc need to included in you weekly or month rental fee to these booth renter if your lease is say $2000 not include light,water or phone divide by the amount of stylist chair you have say 7 that's the AMOUNT the need to be charge for booth rental if that were you wont to go if you are looking to build a brand name salon out there commission base is the way to go you have control of you destiny (redken regis aveeda ) just to name a few they dont ever booth rent that's what make them successful we can't afraid we can do it if you build it the will come the good one that understand what it takes to run a business successful. salon owners who are booth renting there is certain requirement that we need to implement in our business what ever it is that you are paying for the space that you lease plus light water etc need to included in you weekly or month rental fee to these booth renter if your lease is say $2000 not include light,water or phone divide by the amount of stylist chair you have say 7 that’s the AMOUNT the need to be charge for booth rental if that were you wont to go if you are looking to build a brand name salon out there commission base is the way to go you have control of you destiny (redken regis aveeda ) just to name a few they dont ever booth rent that’s what make them successful we can’t afraid we can do it if you build it the will come the good one that understand what it takes to run a business successful.

]]> By: Shawanda http://blackfolkshair.com/blogs/booth-rent-vs-commission-based-salons.html/comment-page-1#comment-182 Shawanda Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:34:28 +0000 http://blackfolkshair.com/?p=13#comment-182 Hi!! I open a shop up 3 months ago. Well I am only speaking my opinion. I think commission would be better. For my reason is people don't want to pay booth rent and if you get your money when they make it. Then you can't go wrong. I think it is selfish for a person not to want to pay booth rent or commision when everything is on the owner. Really the stylist is making all the money. That's my opinion. Hi!! I open a shop up 3 months ago. Well I am only speaking my opinion. I think commission would be better. For my reason is people don’t want to pay booth rent and if you get your money when they make it. Then you can’t go wrong. I think it is selfish for a person not to want to pay booth rent or commision when everything is on the owner. Really the stylist is making all the money. That’s my opinion.

]]> By: Maven http://blackfolkshair.com/blogs/booth-rent-vs-commission-based-salons.html/comment-page-1#comment-181 Maven Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:33:34 +0000 http://blackfolkshair.com/?p=13#comment-181 I just recently opened a booth rental salon, Jul will be a yr. I have friends that have booth rental salons and those that have comm base. My take on it is either option you choose there are going to be pros and cons. It boils down to you as the owner assessing your own situation to decide which choice will work BEST for YOU. Just because so and so has a successful comm salon does not mean it will be the same for you. There is soooooo much that come along with having a comm salon. Highly organized being top on the list, taxes,taxes and more taxes, high turnover rate of stylist if the're impatient with waiting on clientele to build if you are a brand new salon trying to establish a name for yourself. Advertising bill, salon software if you want it to operate smoothly, payroll because if you are a stylist you will need a receptionist, An accountant (a good one), and the list continues. Then on the flip side you have the booth rental salon, I believe the BIGGEST problem is you have owners who operate a booth rental salon as if its comm, and you have Booth renters who expect the owner to do what is provided at a comm salon. If you are renting a booth to a stylist they are considered independant contractors. Basically come and do as they please. The irs website define the diff between employee (comm salon) vs independant contractor (booth rental salon). If you are claiming to be a booth renter then you are just that, you are renting space from the owner, whatever you need is your responsibility, including getting your own clients, you should not expect the owner to provide them. As far as the financial side typically an owner does not make money from operating a booth rental salon unless they are a stylist themself or if they're fortunate enough to find an inexpensive bldg lease and have multiple renters. Which should be the goal because you should not have to close your doors if all of the stylist decided to leave. With a comm salon the potential to make a lot of money is there, but In doing my research it appears that you also need quite a bit of money to get it started if you want to do it correctly. I just recently opened a booth rental salon, Jul will be a yr. I have friends that have booth rental salons and those that have comm base. My take on it is either option you choose there are going to be pros and cons. It boils down to you as the owner assessing your own situation to decide which choice will work BEST for YOU. Just because so and so has a successful comm salon does not mean it will be the same for you. There is soooooo much that come along with having a comm salon. Highly organized being top on the list, taxes,taxes and more taxes, high turnover rate of stylist if the’re impatient with waiting on clientele to build if you are a brand new salon trying to establish a name for yourself. Advertising bill, salon software if you want it to operate smoothly, payroll because if you are a stylist you will need a receptionist, An accountant (a good one), and the list continues. Then on the flip side you have the booth rental salon, I believe the BIGGEST problem is you have owners who operate a booth rental salon as if its comm, and you have Booth renters who expect the owner to do what is provided at a comm salon. If you are renting a booth to a stylist they are considered independant contractors. Basically come and do as they please. The irs website define the diff between employee (comm salon) vs independant contractor (booth rental salon). If you are claiming to be a booth renter then you are just that, you are renting space from the owner, whatever you need is your responsibility, including getting your own clients, you should not expect the owner to provide them. As far as the financial side typically an owner does not make money from operating a booth rental salon unless they are a stylist themself or if they’re fortunate enough to find an inexpensive bldg lease and have multiple renters. Which should be the goal because you should not have to close your doors if all of the stylist decided to leave. With a comm salon the potential to make a lot of money is there, but In doing my research it appears that you also need quite a bit of money to get it started if you want to do it correctly.

]]> By: michelle http://blackfolkshair.com/blogs/booth-rent-vs-commission-based-salons.html/comment-page-1#comment-179 michelle Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:59:58 +0000 http://blackfolkshair.com/?p=13#comment-179 I am a soon to be saon owner, vey nw to th business. When you run a booth rental salon, how much do you charge for rent? When you run a cmmission based salon, what precentage goes to t owner and what precentage to the stylist? I am a soon to be saon owner, vey nw to th business. When you run a booth rental salon, how much do you charge for rent? When you run a cmmission based salon, what precentage goes to t owner and what precentage to the stylist?

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